Rebecca ( 1940 ) original Australian first release long daybill on the left and a 1947 re-release daybill incorrecttly converted to being a long daybill by a restorer and originally was thoughr of as being original release. I believe that people these days know the story behind this poster and now acknowledge it as being a 1947 re-release poster.
To further confirm that the poster above on the right if from 1947 I would like to state that all United Artists film posters in 1940 had the following style logo printed on their posters.
The Released Thru United Artists style was what was used in 1947 was the following.
Lawrence, since you used images from eMoviePoster.com, I think you should have pointed out that the poster on the right IS correctly described (both as being from 1947, and from being incorrectly restored). Someone solely reading your text might think that we have it incorrectly described on our site.
Thanks! Bruce
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Rebecca ( 1940 ) original Australian first release long daybill on the left and a 1947 re-release daybill incorrecttly converted to being a long daybill by a restorer and originally was thoughr of as being original release. I believe that people these days know the story behind this poster and now acknowledge it as being a 1947 re-release poster.
To further confirm that the poster above on the right if from 1947 I would like to state that all United Artists film posters in 1940 had the following style logo printed on their posters.
The Released Thru United Artists style was what was used in 1947 was the following.
Lawrence, since you used images from eMoviePoster.com, I think you should have pointed out that the poster on the right IS correctly described (both as being from 1947, and from being incorrectly restored). Someone solely reading your text might think that we have it incorrectly described on our site.
Thanks! Bruce
Sorry Bruce for not mentioning your posters as being correctly described on your website. I should have been more thorough than I was in providing information.
My '' I believe that people these days know the story behind this poster and now acknowledge it as being a 1947 re-release poster", was actually refering to your information published on your website and that members would know this. Yes it is possible some members and guests that haven't read the information originally published by you may have thought that the poster on the right is incorrectly described as being original on your website.
My follow up information regarding the United Artists information was just to reinforce what you had already stated, in that the poster was a 1947 re-release poster.
The Silence Of Dean Maitland ( 1934 ) late 1930's second printing daybill. I am uncertain if there was an official re-release or not. or just the popularity of the film waranted a second printing. An extremely rare poster, but beware if it ever comes up for sale and is advertised as being an original printed 1934 first release poster that it isn't one. The distributor's logo on the poster is incorrect for 1934 and the credit positioning for Jocelyn Howarth is also incorrect for 1934. The original 1934 daybill should have have had this logo appearing on it as it appears on the 1934 newspaper advertisement for the film below. The original billing for Jocelyn Howarth would have been similar to what appears on the ad also. The reason for her elevation in the credits on the later printed 1930's daybill is that at this time she was then working in Hollywood under her new name of Constance Worth and had some brief fame there.
An Australian placed advertisement that appeared in the April 28, 1937 edition of the trade publication Everyones.
Original U.S.A. artwork from 1937.
A U.K. London trade publication from 1934 interestingly not including the then named Jocelyn Howarth in the actors credits listed.
I thought that readers of this information may be also interested in learning that the film was re-released in Australia in 1947 and appeared to have had theatrical bookings up to 1949 here. The advertisement that appears above was from screenings, most likely for one week with continuous sessions, at the Lyric theatre in Newsastle N.S.W. in 1947.
There should be a daybill out there somewhere from this re-release that hopefully that will turn up one day. The possibility though of finding a copy of the original 1934 daybill is most likely very remote. The reason for not finding an original 1934 poster still existing is as the latter printing may have resulted in many of the original printing copies that were still remaining at Paramount offices to have been destroyed. Also not in it's favour to have one that is still existing and turn up, is that posters from the early 1930's are extremely rare as most posters from that time were just destroyed.
I thought that I would now include here some poster artwork produced for the original 1934 Australian release of The Silence Of Dean Maitland that I obtained from the March 28 1934 issue of Everyones publication. As well as the 24 sheet it is interesting that there are two one sheet designs displayed, with a suggestion that there may have even been more one sheets designs produced.
This is a clearer picture of the style of BEF logo that appears on the one sheets. This is the style of logo used in 1934 which doesn't appear on the only known The Silence Of Dean Maitland daybill, which is a late 1930s printing displaying the style of logo used then. The late 1930's logo taken from the daybill.
Kind Hearts and Coronets ( 1949 ) dayill and one sheet posters. These posters have been listed at times as being from the original 1950 first release in Australia, when in fact they are both re-release paper printed for the late 1950's Australian re-release.
The billing of Alex Guinness, the BEF logo and the credited printer rule out a 1950 first release. In the case of the printer being Chromo Print this definitely confirms the late 1950s as being the time the posters would have been printed. This is because Chromo Print only printed Australian film posters starting in 1957 and ending in very early 1960.
An original daybill printed for the 1950 Australian release. This poster features the correct original billing of Alec Guinness, the correct BEF logo for that period of time and the preferred BEF printer, also from that time the W.E. Smith printing credit.
An original The Ox-Bow Incident 1943 Australian daybill, and a 1950's released printed Australian daybill produced originally for a shortened television remade version. The film was screened on The 20th Century Fox Hour ( 1955-1957 ) anthology series. It was screened theatrically in Australia as a supporting programme in the 1950's,
The Original shown above daybill was sold on Heritage Auctions in 2017 for $286.80 U.S.
The above second pictured Daybill Movie Poster is currently being offered for sale on eBay for $1,400.00, It is listed only as being an Original daybll Movie Poster, without any other details regarding film credits. Bruce sold a copy of this daybill on his website in 2008 in a G to VG condition for only $5.00.
The current poster up for sale that is misleadingly advertised is a prime example of buyer beware.
This Australian one sheet poster of The Outlaw is currently being advertised for sale on ebay as being an original 1946 release poster. The seller says this may be the only original poster remaining. It is listed with a price of $4,000 U.S. The poster is actually an Australian 1952 re-release printing.
This poster is the original late 1940's release Australian one sheet poster version.
Just another regular example of inexperienced sellers not knowinf the priduct that they are selling.
The reason sellers routinely mis-represent posters as to release is partly ignorance, and partly greed. If they make the sale, next-to-none will take returns for mistakes. They say, "you should have done your homework".
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HAS 25% or 26% "buyers premiums" of any kind (but especially the dreadful "$29 or $49 minimum" ones) - NOT eMoviePoster.com HAS "reserves or starts over $1 - NOT eMoviePoster.com HAS hidden bidder IDs - NOT eMoviePoster.com HAS "nosebleed" shipping charges - NOT eMoviePoster.com HAS inadequate packaging - NOT eMoviePoster.com HAS no customer service to speak of, before, during and after any auction, and answers almost no questions - NOT eMoviePoster.com
The reason sellers routinely mis-represent posters as to release is partly ignorance, and partly greed. If they make the sale, next-to-none will take returns for mistakes. They say, "you should have done your homework".
I recently had an odd experience, where I questioned a seller about the date of their poster. They got offended that I asked and said it was my job to work it out (I am paraphrasing - but essentially this is what was implied).
Bottom line is people dont care, either dont know or want maximum $ they can get by misrepresenting.
ebay has become the last resort for purchases these days.
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Bruce
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HAS up to SIXTEEN weeks of "Pay and Hold" to save a fortune on shipping - IS eMoviePoster.com
HAS real customer service before, during and after EVERY auction, and answers all questions - IS eMoviePoster.com
HAS 25% or 26% "buyers premiums" of any kind (but especially the dreadful "$29 or $49 minimum" ones) - NOT eMoviePoster.com
HAS "reserves or starts over $1 - NOT eMoviePoster.com
HAS hidden bidder IDs - NOT eMoviePoster.com
HAS "nosebleed" shipping charges - NOT eMoviePoster.com
HAS inadequate packaging - NOT eMoviePoster.com
HAS no customer service to speak of, before, during and after any auction, and answers almost no questions - NOT eMoviePoster.com
My '' I believe that people these days know the story behind this poster and now acknowledge it as being a 1947 re-release poster", was actually refering to your information published on your website and that members would know this. Yes it is possible some members and guests that haven't read the information originally published by you may have thought that the poster on the right is incorrectly described as being original on your website.
My follow up information regarding the United Artists information was just to reinforce what you had already stated, in that the poster was a 1947 re-release poster.
I hope now that I have set the record straight.
I thought that I would now include here some poster artwork produced for the original 1934 Australian release of The Silence Of Dean Maitland that I obtained from the March 28 1934 issue of Everyones publication. As well as the 24 sheet it is interesting that there are two one sheet designs displayed, with a suggestion that there may have even been more one sheets designs produced.
This is a clearer picture of the style of BEF logo that appears on the one sheets. This is the style of logo used in 1934 which doesn't appear on the only known The Silence Of Dean Maitland daybill, which is a late 1930s printing displaying the style of logo used then.
Peter
Kind Hearts and Coronets ( 1949 ) dayill and one sheet posters. These posters have been listed at times as being from the original 1950 first release in Australia, when in fact they are both re-release paper printed for the late 1950's Australian re-release.
The billing of Alex Guinness, the BEF logo and the credited printer rule out a 1950 first release. In the case of the printer being Chromo Print this definitely confirms the late 1950s as being the time the posters would have been printed. This is because Chromo Print only printed Australian film posters starting in 1957 and ending in very early 1960.
An original daybill printed for the 1950 Australian release. This poster features the correct original billing of Alec Guinness, the correct BEF logo for that period of time and the preferred BEF printer, also from that time the W.E. Smith printing credit.
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An original The Ox-Bow Incident 1943 Australian daybill, and a 1950's released printed Australian daybill produced originally for a shortened television remade version. The film was screened on The 20th Century Fox Hour ( 1955-1957 ) anthology series. It was screened theatrically in Australia as a supporting programme in the 1950's,
The Original shown above daybill was sold on Heritage Auctions in 2017 for $286.80 U.S.
The above second pictured Daybill Movie Poster is currently being offered for sale on eBay for $1,400.00, It is listed only as being an Original daybll Movie Poster, without any other details regarding film credits. Bruce sold a copy of this daybill on his website in 2008 in a G to VG condition for only $5.00.
The current poster up for sale that is misleadingly advertised is a prime example of buyer beware.
This Australian one sheet poster of The Outlaw is currently being advertised for sale on ebay as being an original 1946 release poster. The seller says this may be the only original poster remaining. It is listed with a price of $4,000 U.S. The poster is actually an Australian 1952 re-release printing.
This poster is the original late 1940's release Australian one sheet poster version.
Just another regular example of inexperienced sellers not knowinf the priduct that they are selling.
HAS unrestored and unenhanced images - IS eMoviePoster.com
HAS 100% honest condition descriptions - IS eMoviePoster.com
HAS auctions where the winner is the higher of two real bidders - IS eMoviePoster.com
HAS up to SIXTEEN weeks of "Pay and Hold" to save a fortune on shipping - IS eMoviePoster.com
HAS real customer service before, during and after EVERY auction, and answers all questions - IS eMoviePoster.com
HAS 25% or 26% "buyers premiums" of any kind (but especially the dreadful "$29 or $49 minimum" ones) - NOT eMoviePoster.com
HAS "reserves or starts over $1 - NOT eMoviePoster.com
HAS hidden bidder IDs - NOT eMoviePoster.com
HAS "nosebleed" shipping charges - NOT eMoviePoster.com
HAS inadequate packaging - NOT eMoviePoster.com
HAS no customer service to speak of, before, during and after any auction, and answers almost no questions - NOT eMoviePoster.com
They got offended that I asked and said it was my job to work it out (I am paraphrasing - but essentially this is what was implied).
Bottom line is people dont care, either dont know or want maximum $ they can get by misrepresenting.
ebay has become the last resort for purchases these days.