Dating the Nifty Nineties Long Daybill

David

The EMP selling description reads: 

"NIFTY NINETIES long Aust daybill '41 Disney cartoon...

Note that this is an Australian daybill for releases of Walt Disney Mickey Mouse cartoons shown in Australia in the 1930s (we know this because it is the "long" daybill size). Obviously, there were some of them left over in 1941, because it was used for 1941's "Nifty Nineties" (after that time, they printed smaller daybills). There is a copyright date of 1937 in the bottom left corner, which may be when this stock daybill was first created, but obviously, it was still being used 4 years later." 

This a not correct. Fact: Released in the USA June 1941, the film wasn't released in Australia until January 1942 at the very earliest (Melbourne and Hobart), so this is a 1942 poster - probably a rare example of a Long Daybill used after they were stopped being printed (1941).

Also, note the four stars on the RKO logo (the poster is print dated 1937)

A very nice looking Daybill and if you've not seen the film (short), here it is:

Matt

I don't remember seeing that one up for sale. I Like it!

John

There are quite a few similar Disney daybills with the copyright 1937 at the bottom and it has caused quite a bit of confusion over the years. Interesting that you say the film wasn't released until 1942. I wonder if it could have been printed earlier. No wonder Heritage just refer to all long daybills as pre war!

HONDO

Nifty Nineties was released in the U.S.A, on the 20th June, 1941. Although showing up in 1942 newspaper advertisements it was most likely printed in late 1941 on the stockposter which happened to be the last year of the long daybill being used and was possibly even screened in late 1941 in Australia as we don't have many records on cartoon releases.

Other 1941 U.S. released RKO daybills that have the 4 stars in both sizes on them include ---

Suspicion, Bandit Trail, Dude Cowboy and The Little Whirlwind.

As far I am concerned this is the year the 4 stars ceased on daybills with one exception in 1947 and this being Banjo with my thoughts on why this happened expressed earlier in the topic discussion.  

Examples of 1941 titles without the logo in both sizes are The Navy Steps Out, Ball Of Stars and Land A Paw.

Hondo.

David

John said:

There are quite a few similar Disney daybills with the copyright 1937 at the bottom and it has caused quite a bit of confusion over the years. Interesting that you say the film wasn't released until 1942. I wonder if it could have been printed earlier. No wonder Heritage just refer to all long daybills as pre war!

I have no doubt it would have been printed in (late) 1941 as the first movie release being released in January 1942, which still makes it a 1942 poster.

Heritage saying a 1941 (long) daybill as pre-war would be wrong anyway, the rest of the world had been at war for some 30 months by the end of 1941...so hardly pre-war

HONDO said:

Other 1941 U.S. released RKO daybills that have the 4 stars in both sizes on them include ---

Suspicion, Bandit Trail, Dude Cowboy and The Little Whirlwind.

Add: Unexpected Uncle (1941) - first released in Australia December 1941 but then continued its staggered release through the different states of Australia well into 1942

The Little Whirlwind (1941) a Disney Short, is on the same stock poster not technically a different poster, just a different title. 

HONDO said:

Examples of 1941 titles without the logo in both sizes are The Navy Steps Out, Ball Of Stars and Land A Paw.

The title was: Lend A Paw (1941) and it was not released in Australian until 1942 (also it was on a standard Daybill not a Long Daybill). It was printed on another RKO 'stock' poster. 

Disney produced a LOT of shorts in the 1930s & 1940s I have not seen anywhere near all the titles on (Australian) posters but it would not surprise me if most if not all of these (animated shorts) titles that were released in Australia were thrown on stock daybills. An example would be Disney's Silly Symphony series of shorts (produced through the 1930s and 1940s), As far as I am aware it was printed on three different stock posters.