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  • Fair point Dave I don't think heritage would actively market to the likes of http://www.acmi.net.au/ who would appreciate historical significance ??
  • This is true...
  • Be nice to see an exhibition of posters at http://www.acmi.net.au/  Something we might have to look into!
  • Great idea Matt.
  • edited January 2015
    30% of Australia's daybill collectors just had a fight about a poster that is worthless, IMO...  But I have to agree with the sentiment that if it is your poster - you set the price. 

    There are only a few reasons why the buyer may be able to set the value:

    • The collector/dealer is in need of quick cash,
    • The poster is stolen,
    • The collector/dealer doesn't really care about it at all, or
    • They have doubles and are selling the worst one.
    And a no reserve auction which is probably the result of one of the four above...  

    There is the rare condition were a collector may think he can achieve more at auction than his reserve price.  And then that just means there are stupid buyers.  

    I am not sure how any collector can get their panties in a twist about a reserve or high retail.  Either put up, shut up, or contact the seller and make an offer...

    There is no crying in poster collecting...
     
  • edited January 2015
    David said:
    Reg I think you need to take a big breath, you are getting overheated and in people's faces simply because you seem to be frustrated at a seller setting a price for his item you really want because owning it would put you in a place that other Hitchcock collectors could only dream about. 

    I need to take a big breath Do I? I am very calm and in no way overheated. I wouldn't want you to hold your breath for too long though David. When people don't see eye to eye this does not mean they have been in peoples faces, after all it is a forum here and each individual should be allowed to express their own views, opinions etc. Provided they do it in a respectful manner of-coarse.

    Now for me wanting an item, and owing it has nothing to do with putting myself in a place that other Hitchcock collectors could only dream about. I don't compete with anybody and I am not at all materealistic. This may well be the case with yourself in collecting movie posters but don't assume every collector thinks like this.

    But let me be very clear, Bidll is my website, I have spent my money on it (far more than Blackmail is worth), I alone will decide on what is allowed on my website and I alone will make the decision as to what contravenes policy, so do not publicly chastise me or even 'remind me' on something you have not spent a cent on or in.

    I am well aware that Bidll is your website. I was not deciding anything for you nor was I making a decision for you. I was just simply pointing out something that you might of missed, just a friendly reminder one would think. I remember Charlie not too long ago mentioned the same thing about a recent seller on your website. Although he did not get a dramatic comment as I did from you. I apoligise if I was out of line as that was not my intention.

    Do you really think the seller gives a toss what you think about the price he is asking, that's the price he wants for it, I am guessing he doesn't care if it doesn't sell but if it does, well then that's the price. The major point is he owns it you don't, the poster may or may not be the last one you will ever see for this title so if you want the poster buy it, if you don't want it or can't afford it or think it is too dear then don't buy it.

    I suspect aggression and anger with the above post. If the seller cares or doesn't care on what I think about the price is irrelevant, ive only been sharing my opinion on a forum and that is all. He knows that I am an avid Hitchcock Australian poster collector. I have had many satisfactory dealings with him and rate him very high amongst collectors. You seem too mention "can't afford" again, when you have no idea on what I can or cannot afford..

    I've also heard thru the grapevine you are trashing the auction to other collectors (because of reserves), sounds like sour grapes from someone who can't afford to play in the sandbox - I understand you don't like reserves but that is your opinion I don't see why you need to spend so much energy rubbishing the auction because of it.

    I'm not sure which fantasy grapevine you are in, but accusing me of trashing your auction is completely and utterly FALSE. I believe you have made that up, I really do. I have said nothing but good things about you and your up coming auction. I have even complemented you in this forum more than once about the auction and the great pieces coming up. If you had any concerns you could have just contacted me and had a man to man word about it but you chose a public forum without even having a conversation about it. This is what I would call No Tact, a cheap shot really..

    Also the comment "sounds like sour grapes from someone who cant afford to play in the sandbox"

    Like i said before, I was just sharing my opinion about a price on a poster. You have no clue on what I can or cant afford. I have made that clear, yet you still keep using the word.. You are obviously after a negative reaction from me..

    I am a man of principle and now that you have publicly and FALSELY accused me of something that I have not done I WILL NOT be particpating in any Bidll auctions. This is a real shame as I was excited and looking foward to bidding on atleast a few of the posters coming up..

    Anyways I'll leave it at that, All the best David.


  • David said:
    I remember Charlie not too long ago mentioned the same thing about a recent seller on your website. Although he did not get a dramatic comment as I did from you.
    I thought it was a bit dramatic... But then I remembered David had to see his ugly mug in the mirror everyday and thought, if I were in his shoes I would be grumpy all the time too! So I let it slide. Plus if someone told me my 'baby' (something I had put a lot of energy, money and time into) wasn't just the prettiest thing they had ever seen... 

    Well...

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  • David said:
    I am well aware that Bidll is your website. I was not deciding anything for you nor was I making a decision for you. I was just simply pointing out something that you might of missed, just a friendly reminder one would think.
    This was the intent of my post on David's deal.  Looks to have been resolved at  least on the one I was following.  

    I think we all just need to resolve that David is invested in this project and his reactions should be read with that intent.

    In the end not worth the time spent reading and writing this shit.
  • 5am, I'm up anything interesting been said?
  • I deleted the worst of it...
  • hahaha, and just in case anyone thinks we are heavy handed censorship control freaks, he was kidding (I checked the logs)
  • I love that meme... 
  • edited January 2015
    ....I remember when this thread started four days ago, about an interesting Hitchcock movie of which a poster had been consigned to David's upcoming auction... :)>-
  • Ahh the good old days... :)

    Look, setting aside all the crap that has been talked from both sides (me and Reg), people will bid or not bid, some items are with reserves other are not, some have low start prices others are higher. IMHO if there is something there that you as a collector you really want in your collection and it is at a price you are prepared to pay then this auction would be a good time to buy, reserve or no reserve you will end up being the owner of something you really really want.

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  • edited January 2015
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