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FLASH GORDON. I HAVE QUESTIONS.

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  • I think what you have is a copy of the original daybill that was done over a number of pages and stuck together.

    rothrockbc said:
    And same here

    This one here seems to show where the printing of the original border stops and the paper or whatever it is printed on starts...

  • This is almost certainly a print too...Ive not seen a frankenstein one sheet with the edge borders like that.
  • HONDO said:


     Any chance of seeing a full image of the partly seen poster appearing behind the Flash Gordon poster?




    Its the Frankenstein one sheet
    Of course it it. How did I not pick up on that.
  • edited August 2022
    This damage line.. printed that way
    Interesting. So the feeling is consistent no actual fold line or damage.
  • I’m feeling a shady parking lot meet-up, seller never seen again vibe…

    This is an extremely weird and sketchy find. They aren’t even that good of a fake.

    I might ping Bruce and see if he’s seen anything like this.


  • I wish my "dumb" questions could be answered too.. like the ink.. 
  • I wish my "dumb" questions could be answered too.. like the ink.. 
    Well ink sits on top of some paper types and absorbs in others. The 2 one sheets should not have any raised inks and should be matte in appearance (no shiny paper or ink).

    I am not an expert in long daybills - so I'll reserve that opinion to someone else.

    The fact that you can feel the ink on the daybill may mean that the image was printed using a giclee style or IRIS printer (Basically a pigment based ink jet) which will raise some of the inks. It provides a much more color acurate print.
  • Charlie said:
    I wish my "dumb" questions could be answered too.. like the ink.. 
    Well ink sits on top of some paper types and absorbs in others. The 2 one sheets should not have any raised inks and should be matte in appearance (no shiny paper or ink).

    I am not an expert in long daybills - so I'll reserve that opinion to someone else.

    The fact that you can feel the ink on the daybill may mean that the image was printed using a giclee style or IRIS printer (Basically a pigment based ink jet) which will raise some of the inks. It provides a much more color acurate print.
    Thank you! I can also see the layers of ink.. like the lighter colors are matte and the darker it goes the higher the ink sits and the more sheen it has.. is this telling to type of printing process? 
  • Charlie said:
    I wish my "dumb" questions could be answered too.. like the ink.. 
    Well ink sits on top of some paper types and absorbs in others. The 2 one sheets should not have any raised inks and should be matte in appearance (no shiny paper or ink).

    I am not an expert in long daybills - so I'll reserve that opinion to someone else.

    The fact that you can feel the ink on the daybill may mean that the image was printed using a giclee style or IRIS printer (Basically a pigment based ink jet) which will raise some of the inks. It provides a much more color acurate print.
    Thank you! I can also see the layers of ink.. like the lighter colors are matte and the darker it goes the higher the ink sits and the more sheen it has.. is this telling to type of printing process? 
    Yes, was invented in 1980ish...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giclée

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iris_printer
  • These look all wrong to me. Cut up posters, poorly backed, likely varnished, found under a floor?

    It sounds like someone will pursue these, and it may be a giant wild good chase.

    But I would not say there is ZERO chance they are original.

    Maybe blowups of pictures from catalogs?

    Definitely weird!
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  • I personally think they were scanned on a copy machine bc of the detail and that dark folded corner that was a rip in the original and you can tell by the lighting it was folded up and not caught by the scanner. 
  • The definitely are not varnished. 
  • I think the consensus is that these are not likely originals. Although, I find them unique is a “museum section of attempted fakes” kind of thing. If you end up wanting to toss them, I would be interested in documenting them with better photographs/observations etc. and returning them back to you.
  • That Flash Gordon REALLY looks like the colour photocopy that I saw in the home of a collector in Sydney in 1995. Couldn't imagine it's anything else.
  • These 2 Flash Gordon's are both photocopies - first generation. But when I was getting copies of rare daybills years ago, often they would be copies of copies of copies etc.




  • Another different image originally displayed on the Republic Serials forum thread by Chris ( borrowed image ) in June 2019.


  • An Original Buck Rogers long daybill



  •  Are you aware John if this daybill has been  trimmed or not at the top of the poster?
  • Borders have been trimmed. 
  • interestingly both versions of Flash Gordon's Trip To Mars, that come  from two different sources are minus the Australian censorship classification.
  • HONDO said:
    interestingly both versions of Flash Gordon's Trip To Mars, that come  from two different sources are minus the Australian censorship classification.
    They are most likely copies from the same poster
  • John said:
    HONDO said:
    interestingly both versions of Flash Gordon's Trip To Mars, that come  from two different sources are minus the Australian censorship classification.
    They are most likely copies from the same poster

    Agree, and how about I throw in that there are multiple copies of the following three different poster designs in existence.


  • darolo said:
    These 2 Flash Gordon's are both photocopies - first generation. But when I was getting copies of rare daybills years ago, often they would be copies of copies of copies etc.


    Here it is! Mine is copied from the same poster. It has the same tear mark on the right side and the same fade discoloration running through the middle!

    So new question.. does anyone want to document it before letting this guy use it for garage wallpaper lol 
  • I do believe the one I have was an copy from the original or not far off from it, the detail in it is very precise. It's actually beautiful, it's now on my bucket list to see an original in person from this time period.
  • And guys, thank you for all your help and patience with this. I'm so grateful! 
  • A question that i would like to know the answer for is that apart from Flash Gordon's Trip To Mars, The Shadow and Frankenstein posters are there any other different  film titles in the haul and are any of them Australian designs? Also of the three poster images you displayed are there multiple copies of them?
  • No there weren't others.. no copies either. 
  • Thanks for letting me know.
  • I think there's only one copy known from each of those 3 titles, all at one time owned by Vic Forsyth, a deceased collector.
  • darolo said:
    I think there's only one copy known from each of those 3 titles, all at one time owned by Vic Forsyth, a deceased collector.
    I think you are correct.
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