I wonder if that one might be GILPRINT. Another thing for David to check.
I think on my further examination you may be right John. Come on David what's keeping you? If it is Gilprint I will respond with some more thoughts later on.
It will come as somewhat of a surprise but the membership fees for this place don't keep the admins/owners in the manner they are accustomed...
I wonder if that one might be GILPRINT. Another thing for David to check.
I think on my further examination you may be right John. Come on David what's keeping you? If it is Gilprint I will respond with some more thoughts later on.
It will come as somewhat of a surprise but the membership fees for this place don't keep the admins/owners in the manner they are accustomed...
Yes, it is Gilprint.
Now we have established it is Gilprint it has helped me in part answer a question David asked on his separate One Film Multiple Printers thread. Regarding the three daybill poster images of The Big Top I believe I have the answer to these printings and releases. I will post from a a draft I compiled earlier and post it on the One Film Multiple Printers thread .
Sydney Day, The Printer (aka Syd the Printer on the bottom of many Melbourne theatrical posters) originally of 16 Wrights Lane was a Lithographic Printer.
Records show that they built the original building at 103-105 Lonsdale Street (left, still standing today).
Syd Day was a car enthusiast and one of the first to in fact own and use a motor car in Australia, he and Englishman James Coleman and Harry James (advertising Manager of the Dunlop Tire Company) formed a dedicated motoring club on December 9 1903 called the Royal Automobile Club of Victoria and Syd Day the Printer also produced many of their early annual reports.
The club of course is still going today, now known as the RACV.
In 1910 Syd Day broke the Melbourne to Sydney motoring record of 20 hours, 10 minutes at an average speed of 28.5 miles per hour in a French Vinot-Deguingand.
Syd Day died in 1916, his printing business continued until at least 1929 and later became known as the City Service Press during the 1930s-40s.
Syd Day died in 1916, his printing business continued until at least 1929 and later became known as the City Service Press during the 1930s-40s.
Interesting information David. The example I used was a poster for An Old Sweetheart of Mine. It was found with a collection of early 1920s posters. Although it has City Service Press on the bottom, I would highly doubt that it is any later than early 20s. Note that it has A.J.Charles in brackets. Maybe this could be a different printer to the one run by Syd Day?
My research does show the City Service Press was definitely around before 1929 and they just took over Syd Day the Printer business by around 1929/30. My guess would be AJ Charles was a contract printer to City Service Press for that job (or even movie posters in general?).
From what I can gather and summise Rear Payne's is likely the street address which one could access the business via Bourke Street. PAYNE'S PLACE (an old lane) was renamed in 1909 after John Payne of Payne’s Bon Marche in Bourke Street.
Payne's Bon Marche was large department store of the time which interestingly became Melbourne's first cinema centre. Payne's Bon Marche was founded by John Payne in 1886 on 134-144 Bourke Street Melbourne with a capital of 200 Pounds.
Paynes Place, which runs off Little Bourke Street in Chinatown between Russell and Exhibition streets. Paynes Place, previously Commercial Lane, extended as far south as Bourke Street in 1895, offered rear access to the residences of Commercial Lane and Market Lane. It also serviced the Gallery Hotel on Bourke Street
Lanes Ref:
'Central Melbourne - Lanes C-D', in Amendment C105 - CBD Laneways Review, City of Melbourne, 2007
Attached is an image of an Australian daybill of a 1927 released Australian made film The Northbound Limited which was printed by City Service Press. 52 Little Bourke Street, Melbourne.The image was kindly allowed after consulting with the National Film Sound Archives and the image was supplied by them.
Do you have an example of a poster from that printer?
This poster is credited on the web as being Clements Photo Litho. You can't read it so you have to take someone's word.
1908 version A short 22minute film.. In 1909 Nathaniel Claude Kingston, a musician and theatre manager acquired from Charles MacMahon the rights to the film, which he successfully exhibited in Victoria and New Zealand.
I'll put it as a possible relationship, mine is on Tiny Terrors of the Timberland which is 1946 and yours 20 years earlier. I did find that The Market Printery (N.S.W.) PTY LTD was de-registered in September 1983 (ACN 000 391 702) but no idea if it is the same one as Market Print.
If my quick research is correct then council records still show them at 486 - 488 Kent Street in 1945 and in 1950 they were also registered as Evans & Sons, the latest I can find print works is 1963 and it appears they ceased in 1965.
Interestingly they produced the souvenir of The Royal Command Film, Scott of the Antarctic (illustrated with b/w photo stills from the film) in 1949 but of course did not produce the poster (W.E Smith).
Does anyone know when JNO. EVANS & SON PRINTING CO stopped printing movie posters?
Don't know the answer but the only four examples of their daybill poster work that I am aware of is for films released in the USA between 1922 and 1925.The Gold Rush was released in Australia in 1925 which makes 1925 the last year I am aware of.. Haven't been able to confirm that The Gold Rush was printed by Jno.Evans & Son but it is in print that it was, but the person who supplied this information onto the website it came from has some other incorrect information on it. Seeing there are thousands of daybills from the silent period that have never surfaced and probably never will I fear your quest to obtain an answer when Jno. & Son ceased printing movie posters is never going to happen.
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Heres on you might not have seen -
The Forrest Lithograph Co.
:-??
Another one --
Clements Photo Litho ( from 1908 )
Hondo
Interesting information David. The example I used was a poster for An Old Sweetheart of Mine. It was found with a collection of early 1920s posters. Although it has City Service Press on the bottom, I would highly doubt that it is any later than early 20s. Note that it has A.J.Charles in brackets. Maybe this could be a different printer to the one run by Syd Day?
Once again, great research David.
Found one not listed when I was going through looking for something else.
Lonsdale & Bartholomew
Well there you go...you find all the good stuff when you are looking for something else...enter a poster printed by Syd Day Ltd!
This poster is credited on the web as being Clements Photo Litho. You can't read it so you have to take someone's word.
1908 version A short 22minute film.. In 1909 Nathaniel Claude Kingston, a musician and theatre manager acquired from Charles MacMahon the rights to the film, which he successfully exhibited in Victoria and New Zealand.
Hondo
This one:
Don't know the answer but the only four examples of their daybill poster work that I am aware of is for films released in the USA between 1922 and 1925.The Gold Rush was released in Australia in 1925 which makes 1925 the last year I am aware of.. Haven't been able to confirm that The Gold Rush was printed by Jno.Evans & Son but it is in print that it was, but the person who supplied this information onto the website it came from has some other incorrect information on it. Seeing there are thousands of daybills from the silent period that have never surfaced and probably never will I fear your quest to obtain an answer when Jno. & Son ceased printing movie posters is never going to happen.
Hondo
I can confirm that The Gold Rush is a JNO EVANS printed daybill.
What are the others you have seen? I might be able to add to your list!
Monna Vanna
Shifting Sands
A Woman Of Paris
Any other titles would be appreciated.
Hondo