Charles Troedel (1835/6 – 1906) (born Johannes Thedor Carl Troedel) was a German-born lithographic printer prominent in Melbourne during the late 19th century. He was apprenticed to his father at the age 13 and after serving 10 years he ventured to Norway to further his experience.
It was there he met A. W. Schuhkrafft, a visiting Melbourne printer who was on the lookout for young lithographic tradesmen. So, at the age of 24, he and his friend Robert Wendell (a brilliant lithographic artist) emigrated to Melbourne, arriving in Williamstown on board the Great Britain in 1860 where he served a three year term with Schuhkrafft.
In 1863 Charles decided to start his own business and so rented a small shop next door to J. Sleight, Undertaker of Collins Street - that building is now part of the Town Hall, opposite the Argus Office (now the Regent Theatre - he was joined by his friend Robert.
Trading as Troedel & Co, his company had close links with many well-known artists of that era. One of his apprentices was Arthur Streeton who was still working for him before being discovered by Tom Roberts and Frederick McCubbin. His name was well known in the printing industry for over 100 years.
In 1891 he sent his manager Edward Cooper to open a Sydney branch office of Troedel & Cooper - but due to the depression of the 1890s the office shut within five years.
Back in Melbourne fortunes changed and by the turn of the century they had opened an office at 230 Flinders Street, at the rear of The Age. After the place was destroyed by fire in 1904 he ultimately opened in a new building in Bank Place opposite where the Mitre Tavern is today).
Charles died of cancer on 31 October 1906 at St Kilda Road, Prahran, survived by his wife, two daughters and four sons, of whom Walter, Rudolph and Ferdinand joined their father's business. His estate was valued for probate at £8044.
Although not the first of Melbourne's lithographers, Troedel was the most distinguished, and the work produced under his direction is of the highest quality, ranging from the twenty-four prints of the Victorian scene in the Album through a very large range of theatrical and other posters, labels and book illustrations.
In 1968 the firm of Troedel & Cooper Ltd presented to the Library Council of Victoria its remarkable collection of lithographs of all kinds; now housed in the La Trobe Library, considered a social record of great value.
After his death his long time partner Edward Cooper took over and when he died in 1917 (aged 57) Walter Troedel, eldest son of Charles took over. By the 1930s the business had grown until they expanded to new premises on vacant land they purchased in Bay St, Port Melbourne.
Walter died in 1951 and ownership continued to be passed on to successive members of the family.
The company merged with Mclaren Industries in 1977 and was then aquired by UK based Dickinson Robinson Packaging Group. In 1982 the Australian operations reverted back to Australian ownership which saw the families of Troedel & Cooper continue to run the business - increased costs, changes in technology and other changes saw the business (now known as Troedel Docucopy) close in 2013.
A descendant of variety (c. 1860s–1881), vaudeville was distinguished from the earlier form by its mixed-gender audience, usually alcohol-free halls, and often slavish devotion to inculcating favor among members of the middle class. The form gradually evolved from the concert saloon and variety hall into its mature form throughout the 1870s and 1880s. This more gentle form was known as "Polite Vaudeville."
If my research is correct the company still exists, but now as Creative Printing 878 and can be found: Fctry 4 53 Rushdale St, Knoxfield, Victoria, 3180 - phone: (03) 97638654
I also pulled this off the ASICs website:
Business name:
878 CREATIVE PRINTING
Status:
Cancelled
Registration date:
24/03/1988
Renewal date:
24/03/2006
Cancelled date:
24/03/2006
Cancellation under review:
Address for service of documents:
Principal place of business:
Holder(s) details:
Debtor representative(s):
not applicable
Notified successor(s):
not applicable
Regulator:
Australian Securities and Investments Commission
Former State/Territory registration details
Former identifier:
0856538Y
Former State/Territory:
VIC
Their date of registration of course does not tie in with the film release date.
Hondo - any ideas on the printer and other daybills they produced?
David has comprehensively covered 878 Creative Printing or Creative Printing 878. The telephone number appears to be disconnected so I have a feeling they may possibly have gone out of business.
What I find interesting is as follows --
The Lemon Popsicle poster has an added 16 below the R certificate classification. The 16 appear to have been added later. All copies I have ever seen have the 16 on them. This classification to my knowledge was only used in New Zealand.
The second thing I find of interest is the poster has the distributor being Greg Lynch Films In Association With Sharmill Films. When the film was passed and classified by the Australian censor on 1/8/1978 the applicant was Cinecenta Films and the film had a running time of 98 minutes. The film was classified again with the same R certificate on 1/ 3/1979 but this time with the running time reduced to 93 minutes. The applicant again was Cinecenta Films.
Two questions spring to my mind.
Is there a Greg Lynch poster without the added 16 on it around ?
Secondly is there a another poster existing with Cinecenta Films name printed on it ?
I think I've found one no-one's listed yet on a beautifully sleazy sexploitation one sheet for 'Love, Swedish Style' (Can't get a pic to load for some reason).
The printer : J.H. Sherring & Co. - Adelaide, S.A.
With the problems I have been having loading pictures on other threads I just checked and the drop box doesn't work for me also. Who someone please check this out also and let me know ?
With the problems I have been having loading pictures on other threads I just checked and the drop box doesn't work for me also. Who someone please check this out also and let me know ?
I have definitely noticed a difference in threads...not sure if it is related to which discussion area you happen to be posting in, though I can't imagine this would be it.
In some threads, the option to upload an image from your desktop is available, while on other threads (like this one for me at least) it is not. If I wanted to upload an image to this thread, I would have to upload it first to somewhere like photobucket and use the image URL to post here. I have no idea why and I just roll with it, depending on what the thread throws at me when I am trying to post an image...
I checked the settings, it seems certain threads don't allow file uploads meaning they don't allow you to simply drag and drop from your desktop you have to hotlink it (using something like Photobucket). This is a manual setting done when the thread was started, if it is a sub thread of another it simply copies the master thread.
We do prefer you hotlink your images rather than mooch off our server/data limits
It will take a month of Sundays to go through each thread and change, so until we do I'm afraid you have to get used to the variations.
Lawrence I don't know what you mean by the "drop box", as there is a cloud based hosting server that many people use, but I am not so sure this is what you refer.
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An example of Troedel & Cooper's other non film poster work.
It was there he met A. W. Schuhkrafft, a visiting Melbourne printer who was on the lookout for young lithographic tradesmen. So, at the age of 24, he and his friend Robert Wendell (a brilliant lithographic artist) emigrated to Melbourne, arriving in Williamstown on board the Great Britain in 1860 where he served a three year term with Schuhkrafft.
In 1863 Charles decided to start his own business and so rented a small shop next door to J. Sleight, Undertaker of Collins Street - that building is now part of the Town Hall, opposite the Argus Office (now the Regent Theatre - he was joined by his friend Robert.
In 1891 he sent his manager Edward Cooper to open a Sydney branch office of Troedel & Cooper - but due to the depression of the 1890s the office shut within five years.
Back in Melbourne fortunes changed and by the turn of the century they had opened an office at 230 Flinders Street, at the rear of The Age. After the place was destroyed by fire in 1904 he ultimately opened in a new building in Bank Place opposite where the Mitre Tavern is today).
Charles died of cancer on 31 October 1906 at St Kilda Road, Prahran, survived by his wife, two daughters and four sons, of whom Walter, Rudolph and Ferdinand joined their father's business. His estate was valued for probate at £8044.
In 1968 the firm of Troedel & Cooper Ltd presented to the Library Council of Victoria its remarkable collection of lithographs of all kinds; now housed in the La Trobe Library, considered a social record of great value.
After his death his long time partner Edward Cooper took over and when he died in 1917 (aged 57) Walter Troedel, eldest son of Charles took over. By the 1930s the business had grown until they expanded to new premises on vacant land they purchased in Bay St, Port Melbourne.
Walter died in 1951 and ownership continued to be passed on to successive members of the family.
The company merged with Mclaren Industries in 1977 and was then aquired by UK based Dickinson Robinson Packaging Group. In 1982 the Australian operations reverted back to Australian ownership which saw the families of Troedel & Cooper continue to run the business - increased costs, changes in technology and other changes saw the business (now known as Troedel Docucopy) close in 2013.
Sources: various
A descendant of variety (c. 1860s–1881), vaudeville was distinguished from the earlier form by its mixed-gender audience, usually alcohol-free halls, and often slavish devotion to inculcating favor among members of the middle class. The form gradually evolved from the concert saloon and variety hall into its mature form throughout the 1870s and 1880s. This more gentle form was known as "Polite Vaudeville."
Got no computer online atm have ya?
I read "878 Creative Printing (03)7586776"
The last 8 in "878" looks to be half an 8
http://www.emovieposter.com/gallery/inc/archive_image.php?id=13447549
Hondo - any ideas on the printer and other daybills they produced?
Have some information but will follow up on a few things tomorrow and hopefully post some information later tomorrow.
Definitely 878 Creative Printing, a better image can be found here: http://gallerytheimage.com/node/1432
If my research is correct the company still exists, but now as Creative Printing 878 and can be found: Fctry 4 53 Rushdale St, Knoxfield, Victoria, 3180 - phone: (03) 97638654
I also pulled this off the ASICs website:
Their date of registration of course does not tie in with the film release date.
You could give them a call!
David has comprehensively covered 878 Creative Printing or Creative Printing 878. The telephone number appears to be disconnected so I have a feeling they may possibly have gone out of business.
What I find interesting is as follows --
The Lemon Popsicle poster has an added 16 below the R certificate classification. The 16 appear to have been added later. All copies I have ever seen have the 16 on them. This classification to my knowledge was only used in New Zealand.
The second thing I find of interest is the poster has the distributor being Greg Lynch Films In Association With Sharmill Films. When the film was passed and classified by the Australian censor on 1/8/1978 the applicant was Cinecenta Films and the film had a running time of 98 minutes. The film was classified again with the same R certificate on 1/ 3/1979 but this time with the running time reduced to 93 minutes. The applicant again was Cinecenta Films.
Two questions spring to my mind.
Is there a Greg Lynch poster without the added 16 on it around ?
Secondly is there a another poster existing with Cinecenta Films name printed on it ?
The prettiest printers details I've seen:
Curious to see the poster.
Little Women - Australian One Sheet
Yes I did...am assuming some time in the 50s?
The printer : J.H. Sherring & Co. - Adelaide, S.A.
I have definitely noticed a difference in threads...not sure if it is related to which discussion area you happen to be posting in, though I can't imagine this would be it.
In some threads, the option to upload an image from your desktop is available, while on other threads (like this one for me at least) it is not. If I wanted to upload an image to this thread, I would have to upload it first to somewhere like photobucket and use the image URL to post here. I have no idea why and I just roll with it, depending on what the thread throws at me when I am trying to post an image...
We do prefer you hotlink your images rather than mooch off our server/data limits
It will take a month of Sundays to go through each thread and change, so until we do I'm afraid you have to get used to the variations.
Lawrence I don't know what you mean by the "drop box", as there is a cloud based hosting server that many people use, but I am not so sure this is what you refer.